36 inches DBBL

ebenezer · Post by **ebenezer** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:20 pm

Dear all,
Has anyone come across a DBBL shotgun with a 36 inches barrel? I'd seen SBBLs in 36' (My father's earlier weapon was one such). Also, can barrels be purchased or imported separately?
Thanks in advance
Ebenezer

HydNawab · Post by **HydNawab** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:19 pm

Ebenezer

I know a friend of my uncle's who has a WW Greener Empire model 12g shotgun with either a 34 or a 36 inch barrel.Its a special duck gun.

I dont know if barrels are available here but I am sure you can import them provided you are a renowned shot and if you can convince the NRAI that you can shoot better with a 34 or a 36 inch barrel(which I know is very difficult).

But then again these kind of barrels would be custom made and would cost you a fortune.Moreover you need to send the fore-end and stock to the gun maker so that they can balance the gun properly.If you are a renowned shot, then it is a better option to order either 2 guns with separate barrel lengths or order a combo which you fit the same stock.

Cheers

Ashar

Post by **TwoRivers** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:40 pm

In case of a SxS, the whole gun is needed to fit a new set of barrels, and it's a matter of fitting the barrels to the action, not one of balance. Even with a modern, machine-made gun, fitting is required. Ballistically, a 36" barrel offers no advantage with modern smokeless shotshells. Cheers.

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:16 am

The single on my Beretta 682 is 34" and the O/U is 32". I've seen Perazzis with 34" O/U I think they even make a 35" single. I'm sure they can be made and I'm sure there are good ballistic reasons why they are not made anymore. I've seen the longer barrels on older guns only. I think some company (Hastings?) makes a looooong barrel for the Remington 870/1187 models that screws on to the choke threads.

Post by **TwoRivers** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:52 am

Yes, trap shooters like the long barrels, for a number of reasons; and in hunting waterfowl (i.e. the type of shot you get) the long barrel gives you a better follow-through, so duck hunters also like longer barrels. Cheers.

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:26 pm

THings have changed now. Trap shooters or Duck shooters restrict barrels to 30 inch. Field guns and skeet guns are usually 28 inch.

THe ballistic properties of a cartridge do not increase inside the barrel beyond 20 to 22 inches with modern powders.

In my family too we had a hammer cocking 36 inch barrel Jeffery, FUlly choked. THere was a greener full oke with 34 inch barrels.

My present duck gun is also 33 inch barrel full choked both barrels.

ebenezer · Post by **ebenezer** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:06 pm

Thanks Shahid, Two Rivers and Sharief. I have noticed that guns with 36 inches barrel have the ability to put the maximum no. of shots on the target than the lesser ones at a given distance. I don't know about trap or skeet. But we've tried this on a paper target with my father's friend's 32 inches DBBL and my uncle's 36 inches SBBL at about 150 feet. I don't know about the technical aspects of these. But this is a practical experience of mine.

Cheers
Ebenezer

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:08 am

Depends more on the choke than barrel lenght. There is no reason why a well constructed gun will not place 70 % pellets in a 30 inch circle at 30 yards with 2/3 of the charge going above the sighting line.

Special cartriges like spreader from RWS wil ensure a denser strike pattern at 30 yards.

Barrel lenght beyond 28 inch or 30 inch has little to do with shot pattern.

One of the best Duck guns I have is a John Manton 27 inch barrel with 2 3/4 inch chambers.

High Birds can be swung better with longer barrels, but not in everycase. For an Indian body like mine with only 5 ft 8 inches of height this John Manton is more suitable than a 32 inch Greener being yeilded by a stronger well built shooter.

Post by **TwoRivers** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:28 am

Keep in mind, though, that these long-barrelled shotguns would have been choked to give dense patterrns with larger shot at long range. They didn't just have a certain constriction of choke, they were "tuned" to provide the pattern wanted with the preferred shot size. Skeet, by the way, calls for a short-barreled lively gun with very open choke; and different stock fit from a trap, or field, gun. Cheers.

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:12 pm

Here, I found info on the Metro Gun System, the name was escaping my mind and here is the website. Please google it for more info on other websites.

http://www.metrogun.com/

ebenezer · Post by **ebenezer** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:44 pm

Hi Sharief,
Can the attachments found on the site be imported into India?
Ebenezer

harrysall · Post by **harrysall** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:14 pm

my grandfather had a Belgium made double barrel with 36 inch barrel with both the barrel choked ,it was gifted to my father & i used it quite often ,after my fathers death i had to sell the gun to a friend in sangrur in punjab

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:36 pm

ebenezer";p="46184 wrote: Hi Sharief,
Can the attachments found on the site be imported into India?
Ebenezer

Hi Ebenezer, I don't know about the import laws, I think they will be treated as extra barrels or maybe even just "LONG" choke tubes. I hope some other members will chime in with their knowledge.

b.baracho · Post by **b.baracho** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:34 pm

Can any one tell me why is it great to have a shot gun of 36" . As far as i know total gun powder is burnt at 26" after that is all friction.

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:17 pm

It used to be great to weild long barrel guns.

Now with new loads, multi choke systems and modern powders, 30 inch is the limit.

A very long barrel is extra weight, nothing else these days. For swinging and aligning on high birds be it ducks or pheasants a 30 inch barrel is quite sufficient.

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