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Ammunition, accessories and shooting-related gear & equipment - including Optics and Sights.
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MoA
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by MoA » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:47 pm
Tai Ahom wrote:@ Poland: the 1st from the LHS is papper, rest are plastic
@ MOA: now we envy you and the people governing your country. Forget lifting the ban on import of firearms instead PC should be put on the export list and send to you place

Leave PC where he is. Cant stand him.

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shooter
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by shooter » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:44 am
Whos PC
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
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Vikram
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by Vikram » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:01 am
shooter wrote:Whos PC
P.Chidambaram.
It ain’t over ’til it’s over! "Rocky,Rocky,Rocky....."
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polman
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by polman » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:20 am
goodboy_mentor wrote:OK, forgive me my ignorance. Is it that hard to get ammo in India??
Legal firearm and ammunition ownership in India is governed by a draconian law called Arms Act 1959, which is a repainted version of Arms Act 1878, which was introduced by the British colonial masters of India in order to prevent any "rebellion" by the natives. Unfortunately even though we have become a "democracy" on paper, but the country is still governed by the same colonial mindset among bureaucrats. Over the decades the government has played every possible trick to discourage legal firearm ownership. I will list some of these tricks below:
1) From 1986 civilian import of firearms and ammunition into India, been put in restricted list of EXIM policy. For all practical purposes it is equal to the import been "banned".
2) No legal private manufacturer of rifles, pistols or revolvers exists in this country. Only one government owned company called Indian Ordnance Factories manufactures rifles, pistols and revolvers of shoddy and inconsistent quality. These are the only new arms available to citizens:
http://ofbindia.nic.in/index.php?wh=Spo ... ms&lang=en Since IOF is the only firearm manufacturer in this country and import is not allowed, giving IOF a monopoly, it has priced the firearms and ammunition almost 5 to 10 times the price of similar firearms and ammunition in international market. Thus the resulting prices of arms and ammunition are artificially inflated and kept beyond the reach of average Indian.
3) There are some shotgun manufactures in this country making some shotguns and some ammunition within prescribed "quota" and "control" under "license" from government. The quality of shotguns and ammunition is also variable and inconsistent. The number of shotgun manufacturers is almost same(maybe the number has declined) since 1947 when India got independence as new licenses for manufacture are rarely issued. Thus prices of shotguns have also been kept artificially inflated.
4) Even though the courts have declared it to be a citizen's right to obtain arms license, arms licenses are not easily available to citizens since the bureaucrats have almost absolute authority(with no practical accountability to law for doing "anything" under Arms Act 1959 granted by the Section 40 of Arms Act 1959) to grant or delay or decline issue of license. In order to get an arms license issued, either the citizens have to approach the courts to get a writ issued or the citizens have to pull some strings by means of some influence either by contacting some powerful local politician or paying bribes etc. Once the license is issued, on it is also mentioned an arbitrary yearly quota of ammunition the license holder can buy or posses. It can be anything from as little as 5-10 cartridges to around 25 cartridges per year. If you can "convince" them that you "need" a higher yearly quota by virtue of being a sportsman involved in target practice/shooting, you may get a higher quota.
WOW.
Now I am starting to understand how things are in India. It really is difficult.
Over here in Holland we only need a license for the gun and we can buy thousands or rounds of ammunition ( of that caliber ).
We are so lucky
Thanks for the explanation.
René
I am always looking for collectable shotshells, have all required permits and would be very happy to get a PM when you can help me.
Many thanks René
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nagarifle
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by nagarifle » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:42 pm
shooter wrote:Actually MoA has posted this pic in the wrong thread in the exitement.
These pics were meant for another thread he was about to start which was going to be titled "how much ammo is shooter going to shoot".

wrong mate its how much ammo MoA is saving for me as i am planning a para drop in his yard next year.
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dev
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by dev » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:49 pm
Somehow I knew this question would make me feel as if I have wasted my life...thanks Moa
Just when I was feeling so good staring at my new packs of KF.22 ammo, I think I will go and stare at my pellet boxes instead.

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nagarifle
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by nagarifle » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:13 pm
MoA is a sadistic Bug:::

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Vikram
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by Vikram » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:52 pm
nagarifle wrote:shooter wrote:Actually MoA has posted this pic in the wrong thread in the exitement.
These pics were meant for another thread he was about to start which was going to be titled "how much ammo is shooter going to shoot".

wrong mate its how much ammo MoA is saving for me as i am planning a para drop in his yard next year.
I just hope that you wont land on his Great Dane.We want you in one piece,Nags.
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shooter
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by shooter » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:30 pm
Vikram wrote:nagarifle wrote:shooter wrote:Actually MoA has posted this pic in the wrong thread in the exitement.
These pics were meant for another thread he was about to start which was going to be titled "how much ammo is shooter going to shoot".

wrong mate its how much ammo MoA is saving for me as i am planning a para drop in his yard next year.
I just hope that you wont land on his Great Dane.We want you in one piece,Nags.
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Vikram
If you drop in with the sort of the face paint you have in your avatar, you will have a lot more to deal than a great dane.
Dont forget MoA sleeps with loaded weapons under his mattress/bed/pillow.
You want more gun control? Use both hands!
God made man and God made woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. by Jose Gasset.
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nagarifle
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by nagarifle » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:09 pm
i have a very cunning plan, first i will send in the locals with few bottles of vino. then some dog meat- no- it will become dog meat once i land on it, ggrrat dan meat yammy

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by eljefe » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:37 pm
Naga
If you're jumping, plan for a HAHO, easy glide from dover

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by nagarifle » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:29 pm
was thinking about HALO hit the dan before he knows whats going on sort of thing in mind.

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by dev » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:09 pm
So it's agreed Christmas bash at Moa's place, that way we can help him to use up his ammo at the range. Naga get the old b-52 out and we'll all jump in.

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by nagarifle » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:20 pm
dev wrote:So it's agreed Christmas bash at Moa's place, that way we can help him to use up his ammo at the range. Naga get the old b-52 out and we'll all jump in.

better inform MoA so he can stock up on the vino, as the ammo bunker is full to the brim.

and no funny frog cheese after the dog curry

Nagarifle
if you say it can not be done, then you are right, for you, it can not be done.