Indians For Guns

Hi friends

I will be looking forward to share views and knowledge with all of you. To know more about me, you can view the following media articles:

Times of India:

Daily Post:

Regards
Prabhloch Singh Dhingra
Founder
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Human Rights Protection Group (Middle Finger Protests)

Welcome aboard Prabhloch, I see that you are affiliated with Amnesty International, an organisation known for its anti-gun stance. I sincerely hope that your group has a less blinkered approach towards civilian gun ownership and the right to keep & bear arms.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Welcome to IFG. RKBA is a basic human and fundamental right. Hope you and your group appreciate this fact and does not believe in disarming people to make them defenseless like sheep.

Welcome to IFG. I sincerely applaud your commitment to human rights and working hard towards ensuring them to all,not just for the privileged. We are in complete agreement with you there.

Here,on IFG, we believe in the same values. We believe that every human being has the innate right to protect his/her life and property.

Apart from what the press clippings say, is there something specific that you would like to us to comment on?If you could be a bit more specific we can have a nice discussion going.

Welcome again and hope we can find a mutual ground.


Best-
Vikram

mundaire wrote:Welcome aboard Prabhloch, I see that you are affiliated with Amnesty International, an organisation known for its anti-gun stance. I sincerely hope that your group has a less blinkered approach towards civilian gun ownership and the right to keep & bear arms.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

We're not affiliated with any such organisation. Now that you've hoped, I'll only help you keep the hope alive (no we do not have a blinkered approach about almost everything under the sun).

goodboy_mentor wrote:Welcome to IFG. RKBA is a basic human and fundamental right. Hope you and your group appreciate this fact and does not believe in disarming people to make them defenseless like sheep.

We are not against rkba, I'm personally looking forward to a meaningful discussion on this.

Vikram wrote:Welcome to IFG. I sincerely applaud your commitment to human rights and working hard towards ensuring them to all,not just for the privileged. We are in complete agreement with you there.

Here,on IFG, we believe in the same values. We believe that every human being has the innate right to protect his/her life and property.

Apart from what the press clippings say, is there something specific that you would like to us to comment on?If you could be a bit more specific we can have a nice discussion going.

Welcome again and hope we can find a mutual ground.


Best-
Vikram

Thank you Vikram. I like the way you put it and certainly agree to the fact that every human being has the right to protect his/her life and property.

The articles were just meant for a brief introduction, I'm looking forward to invite your comments and participate in discussions on various issues including but not limited to rkba. To start with, I personally feel that in India, the rich and the influential abuse and misuse arms licenses while the ones who genuinely have a reason to own a weapon are the ones who mostly have to suffer from the tedious process of getting a license issues and/or even facing rejection in some cases.

I can see a lot of mutual ground in here.

Thanks to all of you for your welcome. (and this goes out for your future replies as well)

Regards
Prabhloch

To start with, I personally feel that in India, the rich and the influential abuse and misuse arms licenses while the ones who genuinely have a reason to own a weapon are the ones who mostly have to suffer from the tedious process of getting a license issues and/or even facing rejection in some cases.

The rejection is not in "some" cases but in most cases, compelling the applicants to approach High Courts to get a writ issued. But approaching High Court is not a joke, it costs time and money, everyone cannot afford it. This is how the game of rejecting arms licenses is played. If you read this link and read High Court judgments, you will get an idea http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15638

Also if you read the discussion in the following link, how though arms are recognized as fundamental right under Articles 19 and 21 of the Constitution but they have been cleverly subverted by creating confusion and subterfuge http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 59#p158059

goodboy_mentor wrote:

To start with, I personally feel that in India, the rich and the influential abuse and misuse arms licenses while the ones who genuinely have a reason to own a weapon are the ones who mostly have to suffer from the tedious process of getting a license issues and/or even facing rejection in some cases.

The rejection is not in "some" cases but in most cases, compelling the applicants to approach High Courts to get a writ issued. But approaching High Court is not a joke, it costs time and money, everyone cannot afford it. This is how the game of rejecting arms licenses is played. If you read this link and read High Court judgments, you will get an idea http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15638

Also if you read the discussion in the following link, how though arms are recognized as fundamental right under Articles 19 and 21 of the Constitution but they have been cleverly subverted by creating confusion and subterfuge http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 59#p158059

Thanks for the links - helpful

Do we have a team of experts who can help applicants apply for licenses?

There are many knowledgable members on this forum who regularly share their views and experience. Moreover if you search this website you will find lot of related topics are already discussed. If you find that something remains unanswered or is unclear please feel free to post.

humanrights wrote:Do we have a team of experts who can help applicants apply for licenses?

Further to GBM's post:-

You can start by reading the posts under the Legal Eagle section here. Do use the search function, you'd be surprised at how much information has been posted already.

If what you want to know has not been previously discussed here, feel free to post your queries under the appropriate section/ thread.

There is no "team of experts" available for assistance, just members who help each other out voluntarily.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Welcome aboard.
Its good to see people who fight for equality and justice.
Respect.

Haven't read all the post , no time . It's some girls name in it, if it is same that's what I'm thinking then , she would have been alive if allowed to have a gun . As always the case .

Thanks for waiting .....

Now the question is are you involved only in one criminal case or you plan to forward your mission to other unjustifiable killings of unarmed people ? This fight can not be won in a day and has more problems than you can hardly handle personally . So wish you luck and hope that you reach some destination some day - Haji

Those of us who don't live in India anymore are not that familiar with the case that you mentioned. Often, we are no longer familiar with the daily problems faced by our fellow citizens in India today. Many of us, including me, remember an India that is probably quite different from the reality of today.

Making a stand publicly in any society requires moral strength and courage and I do applaud your stance and would like to welcome you to IFG. We do have, in our membership, many individuals who are passionate, dedicated and believe strongly in the sanctity and dignity of human life.

While it may seem to some that our focus is a little narrow, it is by design. We concentrate on almost exclusively on firearms and the hobby of shooting, eschewing political and religious discussion as there are plenty of fora where those are discussed. Most of us are lovers of nature and the outdoors and that often combines with our enjoyment of guns and the shooting sports.

humanrights wrote:

mundaire wrote:Welcome aboard Prabhloch, I see that you are affiliated with Amnesty International, an organisation known for its anti-gun stance. I sincerely hope that your group has a less blinkered approach towards civilian gun ownership and the right to keep & bear arms.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

We're not affiliated with any such organisation. Now that you've hoped, I'll only help you keep the hope alive (no we do not have a blinkered approach about almost everything under the sun).

Regards
Prabhloch

Maybe affiliated is the wrong word but they do feature on the page on one of your websites.
But lets not get into politics. this forum is about our passion. we hope to read your posts.
Please do visit often and do post pics of guns you might own.

Here we go ...... found a , "citizens right to self defense" ...

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Nagarifle , my rage was that people so actively involve in any kind of "Rights" are not staying active and disappear until some thing exciting comes along again. Show up for few days and forgets it allover again.

Reason for my rant is that I asked the same question to above people that are they only involve in merely one case or they are going after "The whole Human Rights " issue .

Never to be heard from them again - Haji