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my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:40 pm
by jkgdxb
my pistol frame is aluminium and black painting has bees damaged . i want it to be like new what to do? powder coating or painting or something else
which it looks new
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Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:41 am
by MoA
Repaint it..

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:17 am
by jkgdxb
can u tell me what to do for getting is original colour

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:19 am
by MoA
00 sandpaper.. primer and paint

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:21 am
by Amarbir[Lynx-India]
MoA wrote:00 sandpaper.. primer and paint
Moa ,
I think There Should Be some Better Explanation then this Do you think So ?

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:01 am
by Vikram
jkgdxb wrote:my pistol frame is aluminium and black painting has bees damaged . i want it to be like new what to do? powder coating or painting or something else
which it looks new
Who would spray paint a pistol that seems to be a Walther PPK? Why not strip all the paint and blue it nicely?

Best-
Vikram

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:18 am
by manu
BTW it's ppk or clone?

regards

manu

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:27 am
by SARGE7402
1. It's an FEG clone of a Walther PP.

2. if it's painted then the frame is aluminium.

3. Their PA - 63's in 9x18 are left in the white and very handsome

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:21 am
by cottage cheese
You can finish aluminium in a number of ways...

Painting - Follow procedures detailed by other members above. If you can source lacquer paint (Baked type) or stove enamel all the better.

Anodizing - problem is this is too much of a hassle for a home user for just one frame.

Aluminum Black - Birchwood &Caseys proprietary solution. Instant but not very durable- Someone sold one here recently. Here's the post in the thrash bin http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8841 Try contacting the seller to see if he can get you more.

DIY Solution If you know someone working in the chemistry dept of a school/college/university, you could him to mix this solution from Clyde Baker's book - The quantities are small so it shouldn't get unmanageable:

White Arsenic - 1oz
Iron Sulphate - 1oz
Hydrochloric Acid - 12oz
Distilled Water - 12oz


If the solution above is not enough to immerse the part in question, increase the amount of distilled water and other components proportionally.
Polish the aluminium thoroughly and degrease thoroughly , dip in very weak sodium hydroxide solution and rinse immediately. Be warned, Sodium Hydroxide (caustic Soda) devours aluminium rapidly- no exaggeration. Make sure the NaOH solution is very weak and make it quick. Slightly warm the mixed solution and immerse the part till it turns black. Dry in fine clean sawdust, then lacquer it (you could try colorless nail varnish).

Note: this procedure involves dangerous/toxic chemicals like Arsenic, HCL and NaOH...observe extreme care. Use rubber gloves while handling. I also have no control over the quality of work that you or anyone may exercise, so I take no responsibility for a buggered up job.

If you don't fee confident, just get it painted.

Regards,
cc

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:31 am
by manu
thanks sarge

great info regarding bluing CC sir

regards

manu

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:29 pm
by cottage cheese
manu wrote:thanks sarge

great info regarding bluing CC sir

regards

manu

Hi Manu,

This isn't exactly bluing. Rather its simply a blacking process.

Bluing, strictly speaking, applies only to ferrous metal finishes. The processes, and chemical compositions are very different. Iron/steel bluing processes and chemicals will not work in aluminium. In fact, the standard caustic salt blue will devour aluminum in moments.

regards,
cc

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:46 pm
by MoA
CC: arsenic is waay too poisonous to fool around with.

I would reccomend giving the gun to a smith, who can strip the paint, and repaint it properly.

Doing it at home, turpentine is good to remove paint.
Buff it with 00 sandpaper
Apply the paint primer and respray..

Re: my german .32 pistol

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:35 pm
by cottage cheese
MoA wrote:CC: arsenic is waay too poisonous to fool around with.
Obviously...that's why I posted the warnings as well..... :)