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Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:45 am
by subhroinindia
I was reading on the Smith and Wesson Special Edition 60.38 Snub nosed revolver and had certain doubts -

i. the cartridge that it seems to use is the .38 rimmed centerfire. As per Category I (c) of the Arms Rules, any pistol that can chamber a rimmed .38 cartridge is a PB (Read the Arms Rules in addition to the MHA Notification http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=538 which says that I(c) of Arms rules Schedule I mentions PB's )

Now I am getting a bit confused by something - I saw a previous thread which is saying that the .38 is an NPB.

Could someone please provide a conclusive answer to this? Is a Smith and Wesson 60.38 capable of chambering .38 rimmed cartridges as is prohibited under the Arms Act?

ii. Can a person get a Glock .38 in India with an NPB license?

:) thanks in advance

Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:52 am
by subhroinindia
Another small question in addition to this - what cartridges can be used with a smith and wesson 60.38 ? and is there a difference between a .380 and .38 caliber . This Times of India report calls a .38 prohibited but a .380 as NPB http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... es-weapons

Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:59 am
by Vikram
.380 rimmed ammunition which is used in revolvers is PB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W

.380 ACP,Automatic Colt Pistol, which is used in semi-automatic pistols is NPB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.380_ACP

The key here is that .38 revolvers are issued to the police forces and hence they are categorised as PB. The .380 ACP is not, hence it is NPB.


Best-
Vikram

Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:24 am
by subhroinindia
Dear Vikram,

Thanks for the reply,

My query remains that - Since a Smith and Wesson 60.38 uses .38 Rimmed cartridges, it is illegal to hold such a weapon in India right?
If yes I was actually a bit confused by some of #mundaire's posts - where he mentioned that a .38Spl is an NPB? How? (If I am constructing .38 Spl to be right then it is the S&W .38 Spl)

Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:40 am
by Baljit
There is difference between 38 S&W/.380 acp and 38 Special.
As far as i know that 38 S&W is under PB in India but not 38 Special.

Here is a link for 38 S&W....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W

Here ia a link for 38 Special....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

It not make any sence for me, why 38 S&W/.380 is under PB in India? but 38 Special is more powerful then 38 S&W?


Baljit

Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:07 am
by Vikram
subhroinindia wrote:Dear Vikram,

Thanks for the reply,

My query remains that - Since a Smith and Wesson 60.38 uses .38 Rimmed cartridges, it is illegal to hold such a weapon in India right?
If yes I was actually a bit confused by some of #mundaire's posts - where he mentioned that a .38Spl is an NPB? How? (If I am constructing .38 Spl to be right then it is the S&W .38 Spl)
You need to pay attention to the "details." A .38 S&W rimmed is not illegal. You require a PB licence for that.

.38 Special is not PB. .38 Special is different from .38 S&W rimmed and .380 ACP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

Go through the links posted and the differences become clear to you.

Any particular reason for this interest in the .38 calibre?

Best-
Vikram

Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:44 am
by xl_target
Baljit wrote:There is difference between 38 S&W/.380 acp and 38 Special.
As far as i know that 38 S&W is under PB in India but not 38 Special.

Here is a link for 38 S&W....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W

Here ia a link for 38 Special....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

It not make any sence for me, why 38 S&W/.380 is under PB in India? but 38 Special is more powerful then 38 S&W?


Baljit
It is not a question of whether a cartridge is more powerful that determines its classification as PB or NPB.
It is my understanding that if government forces (police/army, etc) use the cartridge, it is classified as PB.