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Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:17 pm
by jonahpach
This gun has come up for sale here.. does anybody know any dark secrets about this gun?

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Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:12 pm
by BowMan
A 617 with blued finish!?

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:45 pm
by Vikram
Looks rather nice,doesn't it? Costs a two bedroom apartment? :wink:


Best-
Vikram

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:54 pm
by surajshuresh
Looks rather nice,doesn't it? Costs a two bedroom apartment? :wink:

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ... Would be nice to know whats the cost of this revolver... Hopefully the buyer wont end up selling a kidney...lol...hahaha...

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:01 pm
by BowMan
Something fishy to me...they never made them in blue finish and I cannot imagine this is SS...

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:45 pm
by jonahpach
BowMan wrote:Something fishy to me...they never made them in blue finish and I cannot imagine this is SS...
Actually its a 617-1 and have seen quite a few in blued finish on the internet.. Actually gun prices in Mizoram are (almost) reasonable compared to the prices in the mainland states.. was just wondering if somebody has any firsthand experience and if it has any quality issues in the longrun.. BTW, the trigger is butter smooth even in double action although it seems a bit large and heavy for a .22. Accuracy is superb and I believe I could use it to swat a fly on the wall if not for the ricochet.. :mrgreen:

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:48 pm
by gladiatornavi
:D I am impressed, will like to recommend or purchase myself........
what is the qouted rate.......

regards

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:06 pm
by captrakshitsharma
"The K-Frame revolver is one of the most important innovations in Smith & Wesson history and was built specifically to handle the .38 S&W Special cartridge.  Since its introduction in 1899, the K-Frame has been a favorite for military and police professionals as well as target shooters and enthusiasts. Today's K-Frame is available in .22 LR and .38 S&W Special. "
Got the info from s&w site .... What's the asking price? Going for under $900 in the US.

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:07 am
by BowMan
Hi Jonah,

Your pistol has so intrigued me that it has not let me sleep yesterday.

My first reaction was perhaps the munger craftsmen have been really working on their skills. S&W denotes SS models by the prefix "6" so while M17 is blued its SS counterpart is the M617 and so on. The wooden grip was supposed to have been discontinued and changed to Hogue rubber grips in the dash one model.

But a closer look suggests it is not actually bluing but could be black anodized satin/matt finish. I can see it where the barrel shows some holster wear, it seems to be SS underneath. Also you did mention the action being butter smooth so we could be looking at a PC gun here (or it is possible that one of the owners got the SS frame coated). The trigger and hammer left without the black finish seem to also indicate in former direction. Same for what appears to be laser engraving on the barrel.

Now there were only 2 PC runs of the M617 and it totals to only 562 guns in total. Both these runs were made in the 90's so and shipped to Germany and so it is more intriguing. I am sure that this can not be from the second run because that had the profile barrel and this does not. Could you please post pictures of any markings the gun has so it can be confirmed further.

Pity there are drag marks on the cylinder. I hope that has not affected that beautiful hand tuned timing which might compromise the excellent accuracy a bit.

Regards
BowMan

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:52 am
by jonahpach
Heck Bowman, sorry for that! :mrgreen: No It's definitely not a Munger job! BTW I came to the conclusion that its a 617-1 by looking at photos on the internet. I'll visit him again today evening and see if I can get clearer pictures. Meanwhile here are some more photos, not too clear though!

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BowMan wrote:Hi Jonah,

Your pistol has so intrigued me that it has not let me sleep yesterday.

My first reaction was perhaps the munger craftsmen have been really working on their skills. S&W denotes SS models by the prefix "6" so while M17 is blued its SS counterpart is the M617 and so on. The wooden grip was supposed to have been discontinued and changed to Hogue rubber grips in the dash one model.

But a closer look suggests it is not actually bluing but could be black anodized satin/matt finish. I can see it where the barrel shows some holster wear, it seems to be SS underneath. Also you did mention the action being butter smooth so we could be looking at a PC gun here (or it is possible that one of the owners got the SS frame coated). The trigger and hammer left without the black finish seem to also indicate in former direction. Same for what appears to be laser engraving on the barrel.

Now there were only 2 PC runs of the M617 and it totals to only 562 guns in total. Both these runs were made in the 90's so and shipped to Germany and so it is more intriguing. I am sure that this can not be from the second run because that had the profile barrel and this does not. Could you please post pictures of any markings the gun has so it can be confirmed further.

Pity there are drag marks on the cylinder. I hope that has not affected that beautiful hand tuned timing which might compromise the excellent accuracy a bit.

Regards
BowMan

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:04 pm
by BowMan
Hi Jonah,

I just need clearer pictures of the yolk area. Or simply note what is written on it.

Can you also closely inspect the finish and metal please.

Regards
BowMan

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:49 pm
by jonahpach
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Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:05 pm
by The Doc
Any updates Jonah ?

best,
Rp.

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:00 pm
by jonahpach
Sorry doc, went to his place sunday evening but he was unavailable. Havent been able to find the time to meet up with him yet. Looks like I get to meet him again only if I can come up with the asking price of 3.00 lakhs!

Re: Smith & Wesson 617-1 .22LR

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:11 pm
by BowMan
Does not sound too bad for a Smith does it?

I would still check the timing on that beauty tough. May provide a haggling point.