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New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:11 pm
by xl_target
Ruger has just announced the Single-Ten. It is a 10 shot .22 LR caliber revolver in stainless steel with the single six frame.
The price is the same as the single six.
It should be popular.

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Specifications HERE

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:36 pm
by prashantsingh
Wow.
That looks exactly like the one hvj1 has on his Avtar

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:58 pm
by xl_target
He He, Yes, Prashant. I think hvj1 is going to be spending some time cleaning the drool off his keyboard tonight.

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:55 pm
by The Doc
Can a Single Six be modified to take in a ten shot cylinder of a Single Ten ? I do understand that an aftermarket 8 shot cylinder exists for a Single Six .

best ,
Rp.

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:12 pm
by xl_target
Doc, It almost looks like that is what it is; a modified single six with a 10 shot cylinder.
I doubt that you could just interchange a standard six shot cylinder as the timing would probably be off. Maybe some revolver guys could chime in here as I don't know that much about revolver mechanisms.

Another view:
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Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:01 pm
by The Doc
@ xl_target :agree:

In the second picture that you have posted, it appears that the dimensions of the cylinder of a single-ten are almost the same as of a single-six, only the chambers have been drilled closer. Loading/unloading ten rounds/spent shells through that loading gate is going to be a pain ! :roll:

best,
Rp.

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:05 am
by timmy
Yes, this is a matter that's all about timing. In the Ruger, the hand, or part that pushes the cylinder to rotate by engaging the star at the rear of the cylinder:

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Single Six cylinder showing star

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Another picture of the Single Six cylinder showing star

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The best picture of the rear of a Single Ten cylinder I could find

The hand that pushes on this star is, in the Ruger single action revolvers, connected to the hammer base somewhat like the connecting rod of a car engine is connected to the crankshaft. In this case, because the cylinder is going to rotate only 36º, rather than 60º, the hand will need to move a shorter distance or, as one would say with a car engine, the "stroke" needs to be reduced. Check out this picture of a single action cutaway:

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Apologizing for the picture, the lower diagram shows the hand sticking up from its pivoting connection on the hammer. by moving the pivot point closer to the pin the hammer rotates on, the movement of the hand can be shortened, allowing the cylinder to be configured for 10 rounds.

I rather agree about the point regarding the ejection of spent cases. For this reason, I always found the Harrington & Richardson 999 model appealing, as it was built on what folks in the USA would call a "Schofield" action, or a break open action like the Webley & Scott/IOF revolvers. This allows a simple breaking of the action to eject all of the empties, without the tedious use of the ejector rod.

Of course, the single action revolvers like the Ruger have a certain appeal based on their style -- something Ruger not only capitalized on with his single action revolvers, but also with his .22 semi-auto with the name that sounded a lot like that of a famous German pistol.

Make no mistake, they are all well-made and there's nothing wrong with these. My older son recently got one of the stainless Single Six convertibles and it shoots better than he can, or better than I can with my eyes the way they are.

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:02 am
by xl_target
Thanks for the explanation, Timmy. That clears things up.

Doc,
Actually, loading a single action through the gate isn't that slow. Consider that in an semi-automatic pistol, you have to load the magazine one cartridge at at time and then you have to insert that magazine and rack the action. With a single action revolver, you can load it as fast as you can insert cartridges and then you're ready to go. With the loading gate open, you rotate the cylinder with your fingers as you insert each shell. Loading 10 rounds shouldn't be much slower than loading a magazine.

Obviously, when you have preloaded magazines, a semi-auto pistol is much faster to bring into action. Unloading a single action revolver takes some time but with practice, it really isn't that bad. Still the break open action revolvers will always be faster to unload, as Timmy mentions

Re: New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:59 am
by ckkalyan
xl_target wrote:Ruger has just announced the Single-Ten. It is a 10 shot .22 LR caliber revolver in stainless steel with the single six frame.
The price is the same as the single six.
It should be popular.
Gorgeous single action handgun, sheer nostalgia! Thanks for sharing xl_target! :cpix: