Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by The Doc » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:32 am

winnie_the_pooh wrote:and it is cheaper than imported .32 ACP ammo.
How much is the price of each in your neck of woods Winnie ?

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by thebrowningeffect » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:31 am

How much is .380 cartridge and .32.
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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by dr.jayakumar » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:09 am

we can go on discussing about .32,.380,.45 but practically its difficult to compare in our country.i would suggest .32 for its easier availability.

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by thebrowningeffect » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:13 am

price please. :cheers:

-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:23 am --

1.How much a .380 acp should cost and how about the availability ammo in India?
2.Are the ammo very expensive?
3. In what cases a Government allows to import a foreign made arms. I am not a sportsman neither I live abroad. Will I qualify for this?
4.Suppose I have UP gun license and want to buy a gun from Delhi is it possible or I have to purchase it from UP only?

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by dr.jayakumar » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:33 am

thebrowningeffect wrote:price please. :cheers:

-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:23 am --

1.How much a .380 acp should cost and how about the availability ammo in India?
2.Are the ammo very expensive?
3. In what cases a Government allows to import a foreign made arms. I am not a sportsman neither I live abroad. Will I qualify for this?
4.Suppose I have UP gun license and want to buy a gun from Delhi is it possible or I have to purchase it from UP only?

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i had called ''tamilnadu armoury'',one of the leading armoury in chennai.he said there is no catridges available in tamilnadu.you have to check with your local armoury.please read our previous topics about importing firearms.you can buy a gun from delhi or anywhere else with a permission from the concerned authority(DM or COP)

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by xl_target » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:26 am

...but revolver cartridge much more easy to reload.
What do you mean by that,Subal?
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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by mundaire » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:52 pm

.455 Webley, irrespective of whether the revolver is nitro/ black powder proofed - is a PB calibre. Please refer to Schedule I, Type 1(c) of the Arms Rules 1962.

Subal I think you may have picked up wrong data with regard to the energy of the .32 ACP. The .32 ACP produces somewhere between 120-130 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle, the .32 S&W Long produces somewhere between 95-110 ft/lbs of energy. For .380 ACP this is approx 200 ft/lbs and for .455 Webley this is between 200-300 ft/lbs.

Imported .380 ammo will cost you anywhere between 100-150 bucks a pop. No Indian made ammo supplies of .380 ammo, so dealers in smaller places may/ may not have any available.

Saw a .380 Llama being sold in Delhi for about 2 lacs or so... this was an year or so back at a dealer's place and negotiations were on while I was there. Not sure of the model but the Pistol looked like a scaled down version of the 1911. All else being equal, the price of the .380 (in India) would be lower than that for the .32 - due in large part to ammo availability and price.

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by sa_ali » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:16 pm

mundaire wrote: the price of the .380 (in India) would be lower than that for the .32 - due in large part to ammo availability and price.
Another one of confusion :( , isnt .380 in list of PB.

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by mundaire » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:01 pm

No it is not, please refer to Schedule I, Type 1(c) of the Arms Rules 1962. If you still have any confusions regarding this, refer the the relevant sticky post in the legal eagle section on IFG - PB/ NPB topic has been covered in great detail there.

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by The Doc » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:47 pm

mundaire wrote:Imported .380 ammo will cost you anywhere between 100-150 bucks a pop. No Indian made ammo supplies of .380 ammo, so dealers in smaller places may/ may not have any available.
I just called up a Ludhiana A/A dealer to confirm the price and till 4 months back he was selling .380 acp ammo at Rs.185-200 a pop (he has no stock now) and he quoted the prevalent price of imported .32 acp ammo as Rs.350 a pop and .32 S&W long as Rs.300 a pop. :shock: :shock:

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by sa_ali » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:14 pm

mundaire wrote:No it is not, please refer to Schedule I, Type 1(c) of the Arms Rules 1962. If you still have any confusions regarding this, refer the the relevant sticky post in the legal eagle section on IFG - PB/ NPB topic has been covered in great detail there.

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by 38 spl » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:11 pm

Priyan wrote:
vrohan59 wrote:.38 is better than .32 in terms of stopping power,as I see it,big bullets let in a lot of air and let out a lot of blood :D The real question is can you handle it,the recoil I mean?Two good hits with a .32 is much better than a narrow hit with a .38.The aim in self defense is to hit your target in the center of mass,multiple hits till the target is disabled(in the Indian scenario,not always practical).
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What with the 50 ammo per year and 20 ammo at any time rule? How much shot you will put in the stomach or chest without running out of ammo in case of multiple attackers (It's one of the stupid laws that needs to be changed, One of my online friend in Arizona was proudly showing me the 10,000 5.56 ammo he brought online while I was drooling :P) Well, if you start on .38 or .357 and never fire .32 or .380 you will think that's the normal recoil and get used to it, Its a human nature to get adjusted to things that can't be changed (Its one of the things that makes gun bans work, we get adjusted to them). Come on man, you don't need to be hulk to fire .357 As I mentioned already in the forum I have sen a woman firing .454 Casull better than all of us.

-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:22 am --
38 spl wrote:And what about .455 ?
Are you talking about .455 Webley the black powder cartridge?

Em talking about .455 caliber revolver

-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:15 pm --

Does anyone got .455 here in india ?

-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:23 pm --

Hi browningeffect,

If you want to go for .380 than go for it , dont worry about ammo in UP m8

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by willys1971 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:44 pm

i am sorry to butt in into the discussion yet at the same time i desire that all peace loving people should desist from .380s. they are nice and cuddlesome great stopping power etc etc but always remember that you are in India. every time an assault takes place in your neighborhood, you are in the local thana. buddy my choice is .32 but not the IOF!

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by 38 spl » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:55 pm

If you are in local thana than wht ?

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Re: Is .380 acp pistol is better than .32 caliber pistol?

Post by Priyan » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:32 am

38 spl wrote:And what about .455 ?
Priyan wrote:Are you talking about .455 Webley the black powder cartridge?
38 spl wrote:Em talking about .455 caliber revolver
Doesn't the .455 revolver fire the .455 Webley cartridge? I think its stopping power is almost same as .32ACP
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