Luger pistol

[ckkalyan]

I would love to own a WWII Luger. Reason: it is a fascinating handgun, design complexities, unique looks and probably childhood memories

William "Bill" Ruger praised the Luger's 55 degree grip angle and duplicated it in his .22 LR pistol

[MoA]

Its a cool pistol, easy to clean disassemble and assemble, prone to jamming due to its toggle lock action. Especially with the lower pressure loadings favoured by most Luger shooters.

Incedentally the 9x19 also known as the 9 Luger and 9 Para was developed for this weapon.

The Ju 87 was used to great effect by a man by the name of Udet.

[hamiclar01]

Funny, I was about to ask you to chip in MoA with your experiences with the Luger, and there you are!

The Ju 87 was used to great effect by a man by the name of Udet.

I think you mean Rudel.

I believe Udet had already blown his brains out long before Rudel was shooting up T34s (against measly opposition, I hasten to add)

[MoA]

True.

[ckkalyan]

Thanks MoA for the pictures - lovely!

Handy 55 Deg angle on the grip. A Luger is a Luger!

The Ju's with all their drawbacks, featured great innovations for their time. On the Stuka's heart stopping, dive-bombing runs, their wailing sirens struck terror within the populace on terra firma. What magnificent machines!

[xl_target]

in class also abutt can be added .

Artillery Luger (issued to German Artillery officers) could have a butt attached. See Wikipedia entry for Luger.

@ hamiclar and xl_target (following up on the off topic part), let's meet up sometime and have a chat on Stukas, Tiger tanks, Lancasters, et al, preferably over a few glasses of amber liquid from Scotland!

Cheers!

EssDee

Would Love to, EssDee, WW2 history is one of my favorite topics.

[Sakobav]

I handled one in India eons ago felt nice points well -- was owned by a civilian no idea where and how it was bought.

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[xl_target]

MOA,
An M1 Carbine? Very Nice!

[target shooter]

The Luger is an excellent pistol but suffered because it was expensive to produce because of the design and the extensive hand fitting, it was also a fine firearm requiring a little more care and cleanliness than other battle pistols. The name "Pistole Parabellum" means "Pistol for war".

The original chambering was the .30 Luger cartridge(also called 7.65mm Parabellum) a bottle neck cartridge about the same power as the 7.65mm Borschardt cartridge, which was more or less the predecessor to both the 7.63mm Mauser cartridge and the 7.62x25mm Tokarev cartridge . It is not a prohibited bore in India as noted by another member.

Later because the German military found the cartridge to be inadequate for their requirements, Georg Luger simply increased the bore diameter to 9mm and altered the chamber for the new shortened, straight walled (slightly tapered) cartridge. The breachface and other dimensions being kept the same, it was a cheap and easy modification, which ultimately resulted in the 9mm Parabellum cartridge, one of the biggest flukes of all time in my opinion.

Another reason quite a few shooters find it unreliable is that, most of them tend to use ammunition loaded to the modern American SAAMI pressure requirements shooting mostly 115gr. bullets to about 1250 fps. or thereabouts. The original loading that the Luger was designed for was slightly hotter and a heavier bullet IIRC, and so resulting in jamming or other problems, not because the design itself being flawed.

Regards,
Anand

Anyone with one and hand on experience with this lovely firearm, in this forum..... and pics.

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Re: Luger pistol

Postby ckkalyan » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:27 pm
I would love to own a WWII Luger. Reason: it is a fascinating handgun, design complexities, unique looks and probably childhood memories

William "Bill" Ruger praised the Luger's 55 degree grip angle and duplicated it in his .22 LR pistol

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Re: Luger pistol

Postby MoA » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:03 pm
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Its a cool pistol, easy to clean disassemble and assemble, prone to jamming due to its toggle lock action. Especially with the lower pressure loadings favoured by most Luger shooters.

Incedentally the 9x19 also known as the 9 Luger and 9 Para was developed for this weapon.

The Ju 87 was used to great effect by a man by the name of Udet.

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A big thanks for the info and pics. Luger .22 . Is there a good number being owned in India. If so some one may agree to part with it. i hope.

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[Sakobav]

Moa

My favorite gun M1 Carbine and Luger off course..is Luger Erma make? What about M1

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Moa

My favorite gun M1 Carbine and Luger off course..is Luger Erma make? What about M1

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The Luger would've been made by a host of manufcturers....
DWM
ERFURT
SIMSON
KREIGHOFF
MAUSER
VICKERS (UK)
Waffenfabrik BERNE (Switzerland)....etc

...to name a few...

The Luger is an entirely independent field of study and research.In fact just the DWM Lugers by themselves are subject to deep research and study.

To me, in spite of its deficiencies in the battlefield, its a damn stylish weapon with everything of the fine art of gun-making cobbled into it. I regard it as an engineering and aesthetic masterpiece rolled into one. They tend to have less than likable trigger pulls but what the hell... they are just too damn pretty!

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cc

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.....Yes they are very pretty

[ckkalyan]

The Luger is an entirely independent field of study and research.In fact just the DWM Lugers by themselves are subject to deep research and study.

To me, in spite of its deficiencies in the battlefield, its a damn stylish weapon with everything of the fine art of gun-making cobbled into it. I regard it as an engineering and aesthetic masterpiece rolled into one. They tend to have less than likable trigger pulls but what the hell... they are just too damn pretty!

Well said CC; as you can see, I was struggling to find the words in my earlier post; you said it perfectly

[vrohan59]

I agree fully,Lugers are really collectors weapons,got a chance to handle and fire one in Aizawl a few years back,looked great but handling(in my opinion)left a lot to be desired(guess I was green with envy that it didn't belong to me)!!!

[amit888_2000]

Nice collection.
)))cheers!!!