Magazine Loader for PT57

[vasanthm]

Hi everyone,

I own a JD Taurus PT57 .32 pistol, but loading the magazine becomes extremely difficult after the first few rounds. I'm looking for a reliable magazine loader that can make the process easier.

Does anyone know of a good loader that fits this model and where I can buy one online? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[timmy]

Vasamthm: I see that nobody has responded to your request, and it is no wonder. I've checked for a magazine loader for your pistol, too, and cannot find one anywhere for you.

The only solution that I can think of for loading your magazines is to find someone with a 3D printer, and get them to try to make one for you. I know nothing about the different plastics that are used in these machines, or which kinds of plastic would stand up to use without breaking or wearing out prematurely. You would have to follow a path of exploration if you go this way.

Double column magazines do have stronger springs and the little 32 Autos aren't manipulated as easily as their bigger brethren.

It would seem to me that, with a number of semi auto pistols coming out in India, that someone could make a business of making magazine loaders for them, although I admit that I don't know the cost of the 3D printers or materials, much less have a good idea of how to market them. When I bought my Canik, the pistol came with a loader -- I wonder why other makers would not do the same?

For any who might not be aware of these devices, the simple ones are a hollow sleeve with a bit of overhang across one end. From this overhang, a rectangular post hangs down. One slides the sleeve over the top of the magazine, and the post pushes down on the back of the cartridge in the magazine, depressing it enough to allow the head of the next cartridge to be loaded underneath the magazine feed lips. Then the sleeve is lifted and the cartridge being loaded is pushed all the way to the back side of the magazine.

This may seem to some to be a small complaint, but believe me, for some pistols with double column magazines, it is nearly impossible to get the last few rounds loaded. Try it sometime!

Best of luck, Vasamthm, this is the best solution I could come up with.

[Nilayabhishek]

I have seen it on a online store in India.. for rs 2500

[kps_dhillon]

3D printing is indeed the best and most cost effective solution for many accessories. Eg safety plugs, magazine parts, loaders. What is needed is a technical file eg .STL, which can be given to 3d printing service online. I have been able to print some accessories which are otherwise available at 20 times its price online. One may need to search online for the technical file and also make some decisions about material and filling percentage.

[casual shooter]

The same is true with Atal Gen2; I am able to load only 8 rounds comfortably.

[timmy]

As a follow-up to the OP's question, I'm posting my experience so far:

i have a magazine loader for one of my pistols, which has a double stack magazine. I can load my single stack magazines with no problem (1911 TT33, etc) but this double stack one is pretty much impossible to load completely without the manufacturer's loader.

I have been worried about losing this loader around the house, as it is used at home and also at the range. It does not seem in danger of breaking during use -- it has sufficient quality -- but I have been searching for one or two more, because the magazine's capacity is lost without it.

I have been searching for one online, and many seem to be printed on a home or small business 3D printer. They have that "layered" look that such things often have.

According to the user reviews accompanying these products, they often fail through breakage in ordinary use. Part of this must be the varying quality of the product, due either to faulty materials for purpose and/or faulty manufacturing technique.

Related matter: I bought another device that was a homemade 3D printer product. It is a jig that allows me to place 24 gauge brass shotgun hulls on the jig and cut them with a mini chop saw to the correct length for 577/450. When I got the item, it was clear that the maker never had a Martini Henry himself, and that he didn't know what he was doing. There were a number of these homemade 3D printer jigs on EBay, and I chose the wrong one. (The picture didn't match the product -- surprise!) I had a real time trying to get satisfaction, which I finally did. I think that he had to retool his software to get it to make the correct thing.

I'm still looking, but my advice is to proceed carefully in your search, and to recognize that you may come up with something that doesn't work.

I'll update this when I find something suitable.

[ballistic]

There are two options available to purchase from USA via delivery sites. They are universal magazine loaders fitting multiple calibers.

They may or may not work as intended. The brand is RAEIND and the model numbers are 701C and 702C. You may need to buy both to see which works. They might be a hit and miss game. Both of them have reviews on Amazon USA site (amazon.com), so please read them for greater clarity. Actually you get both models as a single pack in USA but other sites are selling them separately, according to my search results.

You need to check desertcart.in for availability and shipment. I am giving the links to both models, however, both links may expire as it is a dynamic shopping site. So you may need to search the site separately, if required.

https://www.desertcart.in/products/2985 ... -different

https://www.desertcart.in/products/1399 ... -different

Different colour options are there, but you should buy the cheapest one, as they all do the same job.

Again, they may be a hit or miss. If you are going to order them then please share your experience.

Good luck.

[eljefe]

As a follow-up to the OP's question, I'm posting my experience so far:

i have a magazine loader for one of my pistols, which has a double stack magazine. I can load my single stack magazines with no problem (1911 TT33, etc) but this double stack one is pretty much impossible to load completely without the manufacturer's loader.

I have been worried about losing this loader around the house, as it is used at home and also at the range. It does not seem in danger of breaking during use -- it has sufficient quality -- but I have been searching for one or two more, because the magazine's capacity is lost without it.

I have been searching for one online, and many seem to be printed on a home or small business 3D printer. They have that "layered" look that such things often have.

According to the user reviews accompanying these products, they often fail through breakage in ordinary use. Part of this must be the varying quality of the product, due either to faulty materials for purpose and/or faulty manufacturing technique.

Related matter: I bought another device that was a homemade 3D printer product. It is a jig that allows me to place 24 gauge brass shotgun hulls on the jig and cut them with a mini chop saw to the correct length for 577/450. When I got the item, it was clear that the maker never had a Martini Henry himself, and that he didn't know what he was doing. There were a number of these homemade 3D printer jigs on EBay, and I chose the wrong one. (The picture didn't match the product -- surprise!) I had a real time trying to get satisfaction, which I finally did. I think that he had to retool his software to get it to make the correct thing.

I'm still looking, but my advice is to proceed carefully in your search, and to recognize that you may come up with something that doesn't work.

I'll update this when I find something suitable.

Ho, Timmy!
Didn’t know that you were also into making 577/450 cases !
Helped a mate do some and it was quite easy as he is a machinist and had a home mini lathe. But before that, we too went down the jig (wooden) and hack saw route.

I had a local kid with a 3D printer print out a couple of roll turn crimpers for .410 and 12ga. The first set broke. So I sat down and did some research with him and the next set was made with a different material. I still prefer a delrin rod and home made nut bolt assembly for this. But had to encourage the kid and see if I could get him onto the ‘dark side ‘

Only suggestion I can make is - tell the tech NOT to print a ‘hollow’ form , but a solid one. It will need a bit more practical knowledge and experience to program that change. But, should be more rigid and structurally less able to flex. The old time clips for the Lee Enfield and the Mauser Kar 98 were simply pressed steel. And worked. Everytime.

[timmy]

Asif: I have this deeply held notion that, of the single shot cartridge guns of all militaries of all nations, the Martini Henry fielded by the Brits was the best military gun and maybe the best overall gun. I think very highly of them, in other words!

So, I found a stamped steel magazine loader made of the sort of stuff used on M1 Garand and Berthier rifles. The one thing that looked attractive to me is that the post that pushes the previous round into the magazine is a thin piece of steel, allowing the new round to be pushed much deeper into the feed lips than a thick plastic post. Also, the dimensions of the magazine it would load were thoughtfully provided. When I get it, I will give it a try, since I also ordered one more magazine for the pistol.

[timmy]

Magazine loaders: Final update

Here's my update on finding a good magazine loader. To recap, my pistol came with a magazine loader from the gun manufacturer, but I wanted another one in case this one was lost or broken. It worked fine and was made of some sort of plastic.

So, this is what I bought:



It is made by Promag, who also makes various magazines that I have not tried. This is made of stamped steel and is very hard, somewhat like the feed lips of a magazine. It is unlikely to bend.

It is advertised as fitting magazines of maximum length x width directions (i.e., it will fit a number of different heigths or capacilties). It is a little loose on my magazines, as the advertised dimentions were slightly larger. It fits a little bit loosely, but not so loose as to impair operations at all. It works quite well.

The plastic loaders have a thick rectangular post that pushes the magazine follower. This steel one has a post that's only the thickness of the metal. Thus, the cartridges can be pushed into the feed lips much deeper, which makes them easier to push in the final distance when the loader is lifted. I think it works better.

A strong stamping machine would be needed to stamp this sort of loader, along with a cutting type of machine to cut blanks for stamping. Also, a source of a strong type of sheet steel would be needed as the basic material.

Anyway, I'm happy with this one and may get one more in the future.